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northfarmer member is offline
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|  | 8460 or 8680 « Thread Started on Nov 6, 2009, 10:33am » | |
What do the guys who own these machines recommend? Is that 8460 good for a pile of hours and what have you seen? Need these machines for tough straw and generally poor conditions. The 8680 sounds like a big capacity machine, But I am concerned about the reliability. Who out there uses their 8460 in tough canola. The 8460 I am looking at has 2600 engine hrs and is very clean. The 8680 I am looking at only has 1100 sep hrs and is also very clean, but it is another $30 000. Cant make my mind up. And this dream of taking the rest of the crop off may never be, but I need to handle tough stuff if the snow will go. Thanks guys.
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farmboy686 member is offline
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|  | Re: 8460 or 8680 « Reply #1 on Nov 6, 2009, 11:33pm » | |
I have a 8680 and was chopping wet canola swathes 30' at 5.5-6.0 mph have fine cut chopper but did not to poor of a job! great power, big hopper simple controls. In my neck of the woods the snow just left today and will try take a test tomorrow or next day if no rain over night. Definitely can handle quite bad conditions. Not sure how she will last long term but unit has thick flightings big shafts and bearings also not many moving parts. Will say she eats good!! Heavy crop of barley threshed good poor conditions and never complained. One thing I was scarred about was the two feeder chain idea , plugged her three or so times and the reverser is amazing (hyd /old electric we had on old machine) just push button till it is all out and slammer back through , ha ha
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|  | Re: 8460 or 8680 « Reply #2 on Nov 7, 2009, 10:28am » | |
8680 has more capacity, easier to set, much nicer cab, more popular, easier to get parts.
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cujo03 member is offline
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|  | Re: 8460 or 8680 « Reply #3 on Nov 10, 2009, 12:19am » | |
We ran them both. The 8460 was a more reliable machine then the 8680. The 8680 was bigger tho and did a decent job. I wouldnt buy another 8680 agian cause it was always in front of the shop. Not sure wat a 8460 is like to get parts for but its just a claas combine well made machine.
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|  | Re: 8460 or 8680 « Reply #4 on Nov 10, 2009, 9:29pm » | |
8460 is a very good machine in tough conditions, but parts are high and you have to wait to get them ,unloader auger and tube is around 7000.oo bucks
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northfarmer member is offline
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|  | Re: 8460 or 8680 « Reply #5 on Nov 11, 2009, 8:21am » | |
What were the break down issues on the 8680? Another concern is the ease of repairs and the 8460 is very tight to work on which is a strike against it. I have no real concern on parts for the 8680 as there are about 4 or 5 in my area and the local dealer can get parts. The big thing is, is an 8460 with 2600 hours but good shape a stronger more reliable machine compared to the 8680 with 1500 hours? cujo03, how much more capacity does the 8680 have over the 8460. This machine will be torture tested when I get it as we have snow on the swaths, but as soon as the snow is down it is time to start choking it off. But weather good enough to combine in November here is a tall order. I will check Sears catalogue to see if I can order a chinook. It sounds like the 8680 is a better machine for slugging wet canola and grain straw, but the 8460 is still in the running as I see it as being a capable conventional. This farming at the north pole is wearing me down, but it is showing me why a conventional or a hybrid lexion is a must to own here in the north. The lexion is out of reach this time around, so I have decided on the Gleaner or the Claas. Thank you all for your input, it is very much appreciated.
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|  | Re: 8460 or 8680 « Reply #6 on Nov 11, 2009, 11:27am » | |
I would also like to know the weakness of the 8680.. I'm a big fan of the Massey Rotary but it becoming time to go to one machine instead of trying to find capable operators.. so I'm thinking of going to one big machine.. the big newer Rotaries are so expensive.. so a 8680 may be an option.. as I have saw them running and do they ever have capacity.. but is cheap capacity the real answer?????
so please fire away with all of their faults...
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farmboy686 member is offline
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|  | Re: 8460 or 8680 « Reply #7 on Nov 20, 2009, 7:13pm » | |
We just finished wheat testing 22% 65bu best crop by 15 bu we ever grew Hard Red Spring. Ran beside a 08 9790 and was going .5 mph faster he kept telling me his over load pressure light was flashing. I think a big rotary is great on dry conditions would probably be exact opposite or worse. but when she gets tough and hard going conventional is king. We were only doing 3.5 mph . My 8680 is almost 100 hp less than a 9790 we both were chopping and I did more acres and I burnt less fuel! by 15% +/-. On that breath if i had the money I would by a 9790 but mine cost 250 000 less so a few break downs and a tire might be worth it I don't know. Just my $.02
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