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Re: How much of a lowlife do you have to be « Reply #1 on Nov 6, 2009, 9:08pm »
Steven, I can guarantee God knows exactly who did this. His people will not go unavenged. It would have been way better for the thief if he had taken from a non-believer. I would NOT want to be in that man's place.
Re: How much of a lowlife do you have to be « Reply #6 on Nov 7, 2009, 12:22pm »
I'd guess there to be an abundance of finger and footprints all over the scene. This person's intellect doesn't quite rival that of the Brinks gang. Hope the joyride was worth it.
If the tractor was financed, most assuredly. If they owned the tractor outright, I am still pretty certain they'd have it insured. You don't get to be that successful in business (as they obviously are) without covering all the bases.
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Re: How much of a lowlife do you have to be « Reply #8 on Nov 7, 2009, 12:43pm »
That is truly ignorant, I never leave a piece of equipment out anywhere period on Halloween night. Too many people out screwing around looking for trouble.
They must have insurance, who doesn't insure something worth $360,000?
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Re: How much of a lowlife do you have to be « Reply #9 on Nov 7, 2009, 12:54pm »
I don't know if this is fact, but I have heard the Hutterite colonies around here do not carry insurance. They sort of self insure amongst themselves, if one gets in trouble the others help them out. At least with crop insurance that is what I have heard. Also I wouldn't be surprised if the tractor was not financed, at least the colonies around me wouldn't have any trouble outright purchasing one of those. Regardless, that just pi$$es me off to see someone do that to another persons property...
I don't know if this is fact, but I have heard the Hutterite colonies around here do not carry insurance. They sort of self insure amongst themselves, if one gets in trouble the others help them out. At least with crop insurance that is what I have heard. Also I wouldn't be surprised if the tractor was not financed, at least the colonies around me wouldn't have any trouble outright purchasing one of those. Regardless, that just pi$$es me off to see someone do that to another persons property...
I don't know about insurance either but the odds are good the tractor was just cashed out. I can never understand vandalism, to what advantage does it serve?
I would guess it's an adrenaline rush at someone else's expense.
This will sound cruel but if they didn't have insurance don't whine about all the broken hearts. YOU HAVE TO PROTECT YOURSELF.
When you gamble you have to figure one day you will lose.
I see your point, (and it's an excellent one) but counter with the argument that insurance for property loss is one thing, willful destruction with possibility of endangering lives (including the perpetrator's own, if they'd stopped to think about the danger they were in) is another. I think most of the people commenting on this thread are more upset that some jackass(es) went out of their way to do financial and possibly physical harm to many people. If the machine had been insured (and we still don't know for certain that it wasn't) and run over someone or got hung up on railroad tracks or hit a pipeline, insurance becomes a secondary concern.
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Re: How much of a lowlife do you have to be « Reply #16 on Nov 7, 2009, 7:56pm »
Hutterites are famous for not carrying any insurance on assets. The local colonys around here do not buy any type of hail/crop insurance. So what would entice them to insure their equipment?
Steven, I can guarantee God knows exactly who did this. His people will not go unavenged. It would have been way better for the thief if he had taken from a non-believer. I would NOT want to be in that man's place.
Ummmm....Ok so if you don't believe in god , or belong to your accepted religion it is ok for people to take your things, or tear up your stuff?
Trust me god is a little slow sometimes on the avenging. I've been waiting for awhile for some people to get theres. Oh my maybe it's because I don't belong to the right religion.....Hmmmm, but I'm catholic that is the original one not some offshoot one that someone made up when they disagreed with the church. Oh you better watch out Combiness he might get you next for not believing in the right religion........ ......What a bunch of BS......
Re: How much of a lowlife do you have to be « Reply #18 on Nov 7, 2009, 9:41pm »
This reminds me of when a young boy, about 14 years old and autistic stole a tractor in our area. It was my friends tractor and they were harvesting seed corn, when they decided to go to town for lunch just like any other day. Well as usual they left the keys in every tractor in the field just as they do everyday. Well when they arrived back at the field they saw the tractor driving away. The strange thing is, the boy unhooked the dump cart before taking the tractor, ya he put the jack down pulled the hydraulic lines out and even unhooked the scales. Well the neighbor came with a four wheeler and they were going to try and stop him by jumping on the tractor but thought it would be to risky. Then the police showed up and tried to stop him after he made a few circles in the corn. well he came out and said he was headed back to school with the tractor, but he never went that way he kept driving and they tried stop sticking him, well ya that didn't work to well. Finally he smashed into a tree and the chase was over. Not a good day for that young boy!
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Re: How much of a lowlife do you have to be « Reply #19 on Nov 7, 2009, 10:57pm »
I 'm not gonna vouch for all Hutterites, but all our equipment and buildings are insured. We also buy crop insurance\ hail insurance ect. most if not all hutterites in manitoba do it this way. We actually have our own insurance company. Please do not start religious issues in this thread, if you have any questions pm me.
Why do you always have to bring religion into everything such as below?
Why wouldn't anyone bring this into the topic. I don't bering it into everything, but since you obviously have no knowledge of what the Hutterites are, they are a denomination of faith. They are also very religious, even though they are Bible-believing Christians.
Also, God has some very stern warnings to those who come against any of his people, period. The Hutterites are very devout Christians, and God WILL intervene and bring the crook who did this, to justice.
No need ot make any big deal over what I said here.
By the way, got a millstone handy? It's for the thief/vandal.
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Re: How much of a lowlife do you have to be « Reply #22 on Nov 8, 2009, 8:57am »
Which Hutterites do you know, Combiness? There are colonies that get in trouble for gambling, have massive problems with drinking, children out of wedlock and some that are questioned as being a religious organization at all (but it is good for the tax breaks). Its almost like Hutterites are fallen people too!
From what I have seen, a Hutterite's devotion is solely based on tradition, not relationship. Sermons are read from a book because they should be, church and prayer is done at a certain time because its always been that way. And harvest starts again Sunday afternoon.
I am sure that there are Hutterites that are Bible Believing Hutterites just like other denominations. However, they are not some Christian entity as a whole.
Combiness -Got some mercy handy? Its also for the thief/vandal.
I would guess it's an adrenaline rush at someone else's expense.
This will sound cruel but if they didn't have insurance don't whine about all the broken hearts. YOU HAVE TO PROTECT YOURSELF.
When you gamble you have to figure one day you will lose.
I see your point, (and it's an excellent one) but counter with the argument that insurance for property loss is one thing, willful destruction with possibility of endangering lives (including the perpetrator's own, if they'd stopped to think about the danger they were in) is another. I think most of the people commenting on this thread are more upset that some jackass(es) went out of their way to do financial and possibly physical harm to many people. If the machine had been insured (and we still don't know for certain that it wasn't) and run over someone or got hung up on railroad tracks or hit a pipeline, insurance becomes a secondary concern.
Completely agree with your point on possible injury to innocent people (which thankfully was not the case here) and things could have went very differently and we would be having a different conversation. In the end a hunk of iron, bolts and nuts was destroyed and is easily replaced if they have there affairs in order.
As far as the perp(s) they chose a path that does NOT warrant sympathies for there destiny. They should be found beaten, charged whatever and learn quick from there mistake or the next time this may not turn out as well as it did.
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Re: How much of a lowlife do you have to be « Reply #24 on Nov 8, 2009, 1:16pm »
Andy, I did not know of any such issues with the Hutterites. Historically, they were a rather religious, but still Bible-based class of people. I regard the Amish in the same way. I am aware of some current generation breakdowns among the Amish, with some of their young even leaving the communities, but still, I believe the core mindset of the majority or either Amish or Hutterite, is godliness and faith.
Re: How much of a lowlife do you have to be « Reply #25 on Nov 8, 2009, 1:53pm »
We always take keys out untill we bought a fendt. We had trouble with what we had to do to get it started and then to get it to move so we figure if someone is going to try to take it more power to them.
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Re: How much of a lowlife do you have to be « Reply #26 on Nov 8, 2009, 2:33pm »
That is funny, tks, "if you can start it, you can have it." I love it.
Of course the Hutterites are religious, and there are just as many flavors of Hutterites as there are Lutherans (me, raised the German kind), Baptists, Mennonites, Presbys, Buddists, HIndus, Muslims, except for Catholics, they are pretty much Catholic. (If I left you out and it disturbs you, it was not intentional) And the article begs religious discussion, in my opinion kind of appealing to frothy emotion.
The point is, Brother Manager Hofer called Dudley Doright first, according to the article referenced to in the first post. Exhibiting common sense. They did not have a prayer meeting on the spot and ask Jesus to find him, but they are praying for the persons who did this. That is probably a good thing, based on the trouble they are going to be in when they are caught.
But what kind of low life was this? As I see it there are two kinds. One kind could have been very high on something, being a Halloween kind of night, a group of kids or youngsters having a party, driving around and said "Hey, there is the Hutts new tractor, let s take it for a spin" and, well, things got out of control.
OR
It could have been a completely sober person(s), full of hate and resentments and were driving around and said "Hey, there is the Hutts new tractor, lets trash it". Basically a hate crime.
In either case, the persons were insane, mentally unstable, and need help after their punishment.
Of course, this all speculation on my part, but the question calls for it.
But what kind of low life was this? As I see it there are two kinds. One kind could have been very high on something, being a Halloween kind of night, a group of kids or youngsters having a party, driving around and said "Hey, there is the Hutts new tractor, let s take it for a spin" and, well, things got out of control.
OR
It could have been a completely sober person(s), full of hate and resentments and were driving around and said "Hey, there is the Hutts new tractor, lets trash it". Basically a hate crime.
I agree with you!
Over on NAT, the character we know here as keldifornia (CashMoney over there) attacked a Hutterite member for posting pics of his operation - his name was also Hoffer, I'm thinking perhaps the same colony? I know he was near Regina, Sk. Anyway, CashMoney started ranting away at how Hutterites are... welll "evil", how they "steal land" from everyone else, and so on... His rants broadened out to include all Germans later on, and It ended with him saying that he wished the Hutterites would loose their right to own land in Canada... that they have "no right" to be here.
Well, I think we all have a "right" to be here... I find it disgusting that some people are so hateful of others.
Our 1155 was left outside many years ago - Dad didn't want to bring it home after dark /w the harrows. Anyway, in the morning the hood was spray-painted with "F**K YOU NAZI" among other things. 1 tire slashed, window broken, and they even put a bunch of sand in the crankcase.
Last time anything was ever left in the field on our farm.
In my humble opinion, the only people who don't deserve to be here, are those that can't live with their neighbours.
I'm sorry to see that done to an almost new unit.
As for your question, Steven I'd like to smack that guy around a bit, perhaps with a gong shaft. It's pointy.
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