Re: good story about cats in the palouse « Reply #2 on Nov 4, 2009, 11:31pm »
Hey All,
Interesting story! Good stuff on Cats but as for much of the rest weird - not sure what his point was. The world in the 50s and 60s was different and you can't ever go back. Low world population, abundant cheap energy, being in the most developed nation on earth and deep loess soils from the post glacial age allowed poor farming practices to thrive economically. Without those deep wind blown in soils the palouse would have relatively thin clayey soils over basalt rock. Look at much of eastern Oregon if you want to know what it would have been like. So...
Re: good story about cats in the palouse « Reply #3 on Nov 5, 2009, 12:28am »
Kind of a bunch of bs but there is some good facts in there, I feel kind of insulted by some of it that he is lumping all farmers together in it, plenty of guys that took good care of their land using cats and plows, others that did a crappy job doing operations that were supposedly "conservation" methods. Most of my fields have a limited plow bank at the bottom and I still plow every acre of wheat stubble.
All I know is I still run them good old cats and there will always be a place for them in the palouse, nothing will hold a steep hill like steel tracks and with a little TLC they just keep going and going.
I do like this quote even if is being sarcastic
"Brute power and tractor balance is required. Only a Cat should plow. Wheel tractors are meant for lighter tillage duties. Only Cats should seed a crop. Articulated wheel tractors could not steer straight on steep slopes. Plus the compaction of wheels does hurt the spring pea crop."
Re: good story about cats in the palouse « Reply #4 on Nov 5, 2009, 7:41pm »
Cats do have serious limitations with farming in today's world. As we expand acreage it becomes more difficult to justify running old cats that run at slower speeds, burn more fuel per acre, and are a pain in the butt to move long distances between fields compared to wheel tractors or rubber tracked tractors. But they don't necessarily have to be involved in an antique production system as stated in the article: We no longer moldboard plow and primarily do minimum tillage and notill: Picture is of our 1973 cat equipped with a GPS for guidance doing no-till drilling this fall.
a 1974 D6C and a 1973 D4D still do the majority of the field work on the farm, with a 1960 D6B for odd jobs.
our hills are not steep enough to require a Cat but it is a little safer and easier on some of it